Hi All, Thanks to Don, I have some new photographs to geo-position. They are from a pdf of the the 74th Troop Carrier Squadron's wartime photo album and the pair, shown on page 28 of the pdf, are both new to me. Below is the first photograph taken to the north of our well known 'Keystone' Field: I have marked the northern corner of this very distinctive shaped field and an adjoining one lettered 'A' for ties to the GE finder chart below: Until now we have become accustomed to seeing images of these fields in LZ 'W' absolutely full of gliders. This photograph is a rare exception and if it is shot from a 74th TCS aircraft, must be showing either a scene from Mission 'Keokuk' or Mission 'Galveston'. The next photograph would seem to suggest Mission 'Galveston' due to the presence of the Waco: The location, looking south towards the Boutteville Marshes, is actually easier to see on an extract of that gem NCAP_ACIU_US7GR_1857_8010 flown on the 12th June rather than on a GE screenshot - note the location of Boutteville Church for your bearings: I am wondering if this photograph shows a new glider cluster which does not appear to be on frame 8010? Perhaps it's just the way the light is falling, but I would have expected to see these objects a bit better on 8010 if indeed they are gliders at all! Anyone any thoughts? In any event, I am very appreciative of the opportunity to work on these very rare photographs - thanks Don Regards, Pat
I think you have misidentified your field A from the second 74th shot in the 8010 shot. I think your field A from the 74th shot is showing as a stand alone field anchored on one side by an adjacent field's hedgerow. The 8010 shot field A is shown as a corner of a larger field with two sides anchored on other hedgerows. Also the field marked C in both shots the curvature of the hedgerow doesn't match up to my eye. I don't see a match between the two shots. So that the mystery glider cluster from the 74th shot must be elsewhere in my mind. I also am not certain those aren't cargo parachutes not gliders.
Sirjahn, Take a look between points A and the glider cluster in both marked photos... you will notice there is a stand alone tree in the middle of a small field that is between both points in both photos. In my opinion Pat has marked the field correctly... please take another look. Respectfully, John Szweda
Hi Guys, The stand alone tree is indeed the key to nailing this scene; without it the task would have taken much longer. Below is a zoomed extract from frame 8010: Follow the blue broken line above and the broken yellow line below: One of the objects seen from the aircraft shot does appear to be present in 8010 (circled yellow) but the rest seem to have vanished. They may well be parachute canopies but I would wonder why we are only seeing them in this field if such be the case. Regards, Pat
Hi Pat, The glider cluster to me is difficult. While the object you circled in yellow in that field could be a glider, the other objects dont seem to cast any shadow of have any dark portions associated with them. In the distant field marked "C" we get that sense of shadow or dark portions that are noticable even though they are more distant. Is it at all possible that the glider cluster field is a group of chutes laying flat? Tents I would suspect may have stayed a bit longer . John
The white marks in the field are chutes. another view of the field http://www.flickr.com/photos/49487266@N07/8092118843/in/photolist-dk5e1p-dk5e4H-dk5fSw-bZhYm3-bZhZ5U-bZhVwd-bZhWio-bZhV75-bZhVR1-bZhYh3-bZhYpQ-bZhVSo-bZhWGu-bZhYnh-bZhWxY-bZhXHL-bZhZ85-bZhVMq-bZhZbG-bZhV9W-bZhYV3-bZhVjY-bZhXbS-bZhYCq-bZhUXq-bZhX1w-bZhXry-bZhWzL-bZhWHU-bZhUYA-bZhXh7-bZhVu5-bZhVFu-bZhWBQ-bZhXts-bZhWoS-bZhX6U-bZhYKG-bZhVJ3-bZhWKU-bZhYsw-bZhXj5-bZhV8d-bZhYyh-bZhUZY-bZhVhq-bZhUBW-bZhVBb-bZhYAW-bZhWuq-bZhY5d