Let Us Pause to Remember

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  1. Jan Foster

    Jan Foster Active Member
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    Pat,

    No worries. I've been occupied with other work as well.

    Here is the link to Lt. Col. Norris Hartwell's page on the AAMB site:

    http://www.americanairmuseum.com/person/165034

    It includes a photo of, then, Lt. Hatrwell after completing his first combat mission as well as a photograph of what was presumably an aircraft he flew at least one mission in.

    The 7th PRG HQ appears to have been stationed at a farm just south of Oxford, some distance from the Earls Cone Airfield area near Colchester. It owuld have been cutting it tight, but not impossible, to have the photos of the Caen/Ouisterham mission to Earls Colne in time for a 2:30 or 3:00 p.m. briefing. It would be interesting to understand how the PRG missions were slated --- were they, for example, run just prior to a bombing mission for use in briefing the bomber crews?

    After looking at a high resolution 11 by 17 enlargement of the 323rd's briefing session, the Colonel addressing the group definitely has two stacks of photogrphas next to him. He is holding one photograph, and a Captain is looking at it with what appears to be dejection or resignation.

    There are two Captains sitting in the front row of the briefing photo. Nine Captains participated in the mission --- Hodshon-P, Siegel-N, Wolfendon-B, Hunt-P, Adduci-P, Omstead, Patton, Christenat-P, and Seagraves-B. You may recall, Capt. Seagraves was the bombardier on Stach's crew leading Box III shot down near Mezidon MY. Capt. Hunt was leading Box II, with "Tex" flying as a gunner. Based on appearances and ethicity of surnames, it looks like Capt. Adduci, a pilot, is the Captain looking dejected or resigned. It would be interesting to find Maj. Stach in the photgraph, as it was the last photo taken of him alive.

    Jan
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    Here is the link to Getty Images. The second photograph is of what appears ot have been the briefing for the 323rd's last mission on D-Day to Caen RJs. Take off was at 3:30 p.m.

    http://www.gettyimages.com/search/photographer?excludenudity=true&mediatype=photography&page=1&phrase=d%20day&photographer=frank%20sch
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    http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/crews-of-b-26-marauders-charged-with-laying-smokescreens-news-photo/50492103&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi77sHLrrfNAhUPQlIKHZFnD0kQwW4IFjAA&usg=AFQjCNEcN_QmDvWQOaEKUkJ9Iiz7wmDJ5g

    Try this link for the photo of the briefing session for afternnon D-Day 323rd. Getty Images makes it difficult to provide a link to the specific photo. Please note that they summary is not completely accurate. The three morning missions attacked Utah Beach. My dad did not fly any of those missions. He flew the afternoon mission. Because he's in the photograph of the briefing session, it stands to reason the session was for the afternoon mission to Caen. Also, it's doubtful the press would have been allowed into the morning briefing because the invasion was still a secret. The breifing for the morning mssions was very early -- Frank's diary notes he had to ge tup shortly after midnight to have breakfast before getting briefed.
     
  2. Pat Curran

    Pat Curran Administrator
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    Hi Jan,

    There is a photo of Captain Paul Stach here on the B26.com site; don't see any good matches for him in your briefing photo, but only the foreground guys are anyway clearly identifiable.

    I have now completed uploading your NARA frames from Sortie US7GR/1729 and they are available to download by members with 'Researcher' status from the Green Room Library at the location below:

    Researchers 'Green Room' Area / Resource Files / Medium Resolution Frames - Sortie US7GR/1729

    I will open a new thread in the open Forum in order to find the locations of these eleven frames.

    Thanks again for allowing us access this heretofore unseen sortie.

    Regards,

    Pat
     
  3. Jan Foster

    Jan Foster Active Member
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    Pat,

    Great find. Take a look at the officer on the far right in the first row sitting next to JD Heltonn. Same color blonde hair, very similar features and frame. However, that individual has Captain's bars, if my memory is right. I thought Stach was a Major. Will pull out the enlargement and the loading list to verify Stach's rank on D-Day, to the extent the loading list is accurate.

    At first glance, it looks like Stach. It's striking how the combat crews could be sitting next to each other in a briefing, and a few hours later one or more of them would be gone just randomly.

    You are most welcome on the PRG photographs. Hope they will be of some interest. If I get to NA, I will go through all for Sortie 1729 to see if there are others that would add something to the collection.

    Jan
     
  4. ddayHorsa

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    Hi all,

    73rd Anniversary of D-Day.

    So it is time once again to remember those in the Allied forces who gave so much in support of freedom for so many.
     
  5. ddayHorsa

    ddayHorsa Active Member
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    Dec 20, 2013
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    Hi all,

    73rd Anniversary of D-Day!

    So it is time once again to remember those in the Allied forces who gave so much in support of freedom for so many. I always wish that my father had said more about his experiences. But through this forum and research I have learned much.

    The earlier posts are wonderful and speak for themselves.


    Charles
     
  6. Ellen Duinker

    Ellen Duinker Active Member
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    Jan 6, 2015
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    Greetings all,

    My 96 year old mother (widow of Charlie Trainor of the “Charlie’s Church” thread) and I wish to thank Whitebeam Battlefield Forum researchers. We celebrate the diligence, passion and integrity with which you illustrate Normandy 1944 history.

    Today we remember the sacrifices of our fallen service men and women. As well, we send our appreciation to those who ensure our heroes’ stories are not forgotten.

    Thank you.

    Mel Trainor & her daughter, Ellen Duinker
     
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  7. Pat Curran

    Pat Curran Administrator
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    Hi Ellen,

    Great to hear from you and that your Mam is doing well.

    Despite the very different Armistice Day this year, it was heartening to see so many young people out paying their respects to the fallen, including, I am glad to say, here in Ireland.

    Apologies for the lack of further work here on the Forum but other matters had my time tied up over the past year or so. I have once again returned to an even keel time wise and hope to be able to get back to doing more research on the Normandy Campaign.

    Best Regards to you and your Mam.

    Pat
     
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