Utah 'Beach Pairs' Hi All, I was wondering for some time about few pairs of frames in the series with 3xxx and 4yyy of locatable and unlocatable locations. Sometime with matching numbers (see La Pecherie = Frame 3028 and Frame 4028), sometimes one or two off in their numbers but showing the same scenery (see road La Grande Dune = Frame 3018 and Frame 4019). With the above in mind it seems now evident that the 3xxx series is from the port and the 4yyyy from the starport camera. Frame 3018 is oriented correctly with the marshes at the left and the beach to the right showing the more western part (port side) of the road La Grande Dune, while Frame 4019 shows the more eastern part of the road (starport side) 180° rotated. See attached what I think is the series of 3xxx and 4yyy frames from locations at Utah Beach and the mashes behind. Some singles remain in the series but most of them are pairs. I had to cut into 2 files to make the cut below 0.5MB each. Hans
Hi Hans, Yes, very often the numbers do synchronise for port and starboard cameras - or at least are very close sequentially. A good example is shown at post #31 in the US7GR/1746 thread where Captain Childress made a run just behind Omaha Beach. The NCAP guys had tagged the four frames from the starboard camera but the sortie index plot did not show the frames from the port side and hence these were tagged as 'un-locatables'. Regards, Pat
Hi All, made some more discoveries. Frame 3012 together with Starboard Frame 4013 is at Utah Beach Head. Evidence can be seen here: Frame 8016 Frame 3014 together with Starboard Frame 4014 is at Utah Beach Head. Evidence can be seen here: Frame 8019 Frame 3022 together with Starboard Frame 4023 is at Omaha Beach Saint-Laurent-sur-Mer. Evidence can be seen here: Frame 8030 Frame 3024 and Starboard Frame 4025 are alongside to the Hameau Road at Sainte-Marie-du-Mont. Evidence can be seen here: Frame 8031 and Frame 8032. The Hameau Road is heading into La Madeleine Road and related to the already identified Frame 3023 showing the Hameau Pouppeville close to Utah Beach. I made a pano from Utah Beach head. All frames(8013, 8014, 8015, 8016) from NCAP.
Hi Hans, Your last image link (the pano) is on your ADrive account and does appear to be embedded in your post. Regards, Pat
D113 Grandcamp-Maisy One more resolved. Frame 3031 and Starboard Frame 4031 both show a scenery alongside D113, connecting Grandcamp-Maisy with the countryside. Frame 3031 and Frame 4031: Source is NCAP Here the IGN cover from 1947: Source is IGN Here today's view: Source is Google Maps Hans
2 more discoveries behind Omaha beach and 1 at La Pecherie behind Utah beach Hi Guys, the next frames displayed are behind Omaha beach. They are in line with my last post 'Frame 3031 and Starboard Frame 4031 both show a scenery alongside D113'. All pics (Frame 3030/4030, 3031/4031 & 4035) are caputuring streets and connections into the countryside. Here are the pics related to the Frame 3030 & 4030: Source is NCAP Here is the IGN Cover from 1947: Source is IGN Here is the scene today: Source Google Maps Here is the pic related to the Frame 4035. Nothing from the port side: Source is NCAP Here is the same spot with more area covered by Frame 8041: Source is NCAP Here is the scene today: Source Google Maps More to come on La Pecherie behind Utah beach in the next update. Hans [hr] La Pecherei behind Utah beach Frame 3029 and 4029 are covering the marshes next to La Pecherie behind Utah beach. Here are the 2 pics connected: Source in NCAP Frame 8036 and 8037 are showing the full scene. AoI is the 'white' area right in the middle of the top pic. Source in NCAP This frame completes the series starting with 3007 down to 3033 into Bayeux except Frame 3025 whih is I think related to a canal but no idea where. I am updating GE Fly-By with latest finds also and send out soon. Hans
Hi Hans, Once again, a great job done by you tracking down these latest finds. 3025...It looks to me to be either the boundary along the flooded area behind Utah Beach or a mud bank somewhere at the Vire /Carentan Canal estuary. Flooded marshland or mud but not sand - I could be wrong however Regards, Pat
5 new discoveries, 3 of them between Bayeux and Caen and 2 in Caen Hi Guys, the 3 frames (Frame 3034/4039, 3035/4040, 3036/4041) are alongside D613 from Bayeux into Caen. See as ref the Frame 3034 and 4039 concatenated. Source:NCAP Here is the view today. Source: Google Maps They are covered also in the set of frames 845, 8046, 8047. From these 3 frames I made a pano to allow referencing them into the countryside. Sources of the frames: NCAP At the botton is a pair of roads intersecting with D613, one straight from left, one 'not straight' from the right. The straight one ends at Chateau de Martragny. The 'none straight one' into the hameau of Carcagny. These road are shown in the IGN cover from 1947. Source: IGN. From comapring these 3 sources of data we can be sure the Frames do cover the area between Caracagny (8045) and Loucelles (8047). Interesting is the pair Frame 3035/4040. In the center is a none-bocage type structure shown with some kind of ground activities. Source: NCAP The are still remains in the cover from IGN 1947. ONe can see something was hit and something was removed in several place as well. Source: IGN The 2 frame in Caen will come later: They are located Avenue Henry Cheron (Frame 4042) and Rue Docteur Tillaux (Frame 4043). The GE Fly-By was send to Pat for sharing with the forum. Hans
Hi Hans, I think you have the project well in hand Your kmz file is on the ADrive cloud at this link (2.1KBs). Regards, Pat
The 2 promised from Caen and one new discovery Frame 3025/4026 Hi Guys, as promised here is the evidence for the 2 frame pairs from Caen, e.g. Avenue Henry Cheron and Rue Docteur Tillaux. Avenue Henry Cheron: Frame 4042. No port frame available. AoI are the long houses parallel to the street. Source: NCAP Here the IGN Cover from 1947. Source: IGN And here the today's view. Source: Googe Maps The long houses are still visible today. Rue Docteur Tillaux: Frame 3038/4043 can be seen here concatenated. Source: NCAP The IGN cover from 1947. Source: IGN This is the view today. Source: Google Maps [hr] Here the evidence for the frame pair 3025/4026. Frame 3025/4026 concatenated. Source: NCAP The frame pair is from a series of pictures behind Utah beach starting 3023 Pouppeville and ending in La Pecherie Frame 3029. The series is also reflected the 8xxxx series starting Frame 8031 showing Pouppeville and ending in Frame 8037 showing the marshes next to La Pecherie. Frame 8033 shows when zoomed into it the AoI from frame pair 3025/4026. Source: NCAP Today's view. Source Google Maps I have updated kmz file and will share again when more are resolved. So they are showing the marshes...
Bocage, La Roque and Luc-su-Mer Hi Guys, some more discoveries. Frame 3037 shows a scene near Putot-en-Bessin. Spotting the location was possible because of Frame 8048 showing more details like the circled intersection at 2 o'clock.Source: NCAP Here IGN 1947 cover. Source: IGN And today. Source: Google Maps [hr] Ouistreham and La Roque I did also take a look to the number of Frames around Ouistreham and La Roque. I made the connections of Frames as they appear to me and added them into a single picture. Source of all Frames in the picture: NCAP. A mix of Frames from port only, starboard only and port/starboard pairs. What I think the Frames are showing is the 1st pass traversing La Roque (Frame 3040/4062, 4063, 4064), than rolling over to port side heading towards the sluices of Ouistreham (Frames 3041, 3042), than followed by a 2nd pass east to west following the shoreline (Frame 3043/4065, 3044/4066), followed by 2 singles showing the banks next the sluices from Ouistreham (Frame 3045, 3046) and moving on. [hr] Luc-sur-Mer The sortie continues with a pass-over of Luc-sur-Mer (Frame 3047/4067). Here the Frames concatenated. Source: NCAP [align=center][/align. The cover from 1947. Source:IGN Todays view. Source: Google Maps Fly-By*.kmz is updated and will be send to Pat for sharing with the forum.
Haute and Basse Ecarde Starting with Frame 4045 until Frame 4061 is a series of starboard frames only. Including a couple of glider picture at Basse and Haute Ecarde. Something for the 'glider-folks' here.
Hi Hans, I'll upload your latest kmz file tonight - very interested to see how close sortie 1730 gets to the Caen - Lisieux line in regard to our current search on the 'Charlie's Church' thread. Below is a T junction as seen in F/Lt Trainor's gun camera footage which we are trying to locate, most likely in the Caen - Lisieux - Falaise triangle: A much sought after location! - if you find any frames from sortie 1730 within or close to this triangle, please do keep your eagle eyes scanning for this T junction Thanks Hans. Regards, Pat
Thanks Wojtek, Hans has been working here on sortie 1730 on his own with very little help from me. I still have not had a chance to upload his latest kmz file, but will get to it this weekend. Any help you can give Hans with this sortie will be very much appreciated by all. Regards, Pat
Bernieres-sur-Mer to La Seulles Rivieres Hi Guys, I started looking into the next locations and started concatenating Frame 8061 Bernieres-sur-Mer down to Frame 8068 La Seulles Rivieres. Source of all Frames: NCAP It will be the basis for locating more frames.
Hi Wojtek, welcome! You are right on the spot! Here is Frame 3002 and 4002 concatenated. Source: NCAP Here is the 1947 cover. Source: IGN More chances to connect the 'ship frames' to a shore line.